The Green Transition Dilemma with James Salzman and J.B. Ruhl

As we've explored on this show before, the past few years have seen an unprecedented level of public and private investment in green energy, green infrastructure, and electrification. Between the Inflation Reduction Act and the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, over $1 Trillion has flowed into the green economy. This reflects the urgency of the climate crisis and the need to rapidly reduce greenhouse gas emissions to attempt to avoid worst-case global warming scenarios.

Unfortunately, when it comes to physically building all these projects - from wind turbines, to lithium mines, to transmission lines - we are seeing massive, decades-long delays in the permitting and planning process, often as a result of environmental law meant to, ironically, protect us from pollution and ecological harm. In the fight against climate change, every second counts, and we cannot afford these delays.

Our guests this week are James Salzman and J.B. Ruhl, environmental law professors at UCLA and Vanderbilt, respectively. They are the authors of The Greens' Dilemma, a framework for understanding how our regulatory regime is inhibiting our capacity to confront climate change, what the stakes are, and what to do about it.

Read The Greens' Dilemma: Building Tomorrow's Climate Infrastructure Today

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